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Poll: Engine output seal and/ or counterbalance seal leaks on your r1200.
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espressoforyou
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No problem Martyhill, thanks for all you input
Hope to see you at one at the rally. I might be riding a Suzuki 650 Adventure.
Thanks again
Hope to see you at one at the rally. I might be riding a Suzuki 650 Adventure.
Thanks again
espressoforyou
New member
Glad to hear marty
My best friend and riding buddy has a 2005 R1200gs red just like mine and never had any problems with it. No leaks at all. If yours has not leaked by now it probably never will leak.
Good for you and most of the other 2005 gs riders.
My best friend and riding buddy has a 2005 R1200gs red just like mine and never had any problems with it. No leaks at all. If yours has not leaked by now it probably never will leak.
Good for you and most of the other 2005 gs riders.
espressoforyou
New member
Summary of problems with BMW NA and the MOA Forum
Several people asked why I waited 7 years to "demand" a new bike. The answer is that I did not wait. I have been asking for 5 years. It took three years to reach Anthony Cavanaugh. I spoke with the 1-800 customer service employees many times. They were nice but would not pass me up to the next level. I only received a call from Anthony after posting on the Motorrad facebook page asking for help.
The very first time that I had the bike repaired it was one month before the 3 year factory warranty expired. Most lemon laws state that you must have 3 or more repairs for the same problem during the warranty period. So it would have been difficult to win under the lemon law rules of TN.
If nothing else good comes out of this at least the members will know how to reach Anthony Cavanaugh(pre-litigation and vehicle buy-back manager). Anthony.cavanaugh@bmwna.com His direct line is 201-263-8215
Two weeks ago is the first time that BMW declared that "I have a unrepairable and defective bike and the only solution is a new engine". It took seven years for them to admit this and that is why I have started this email and social media campaign at this time.
You are right, $1,241.17 is an insulting amount of a buy-back offer and that is what got me all fired up and pissed off. If Anthony would have offered normal trade-in value I would have accepted it and bought a new bike and that would have been the end of the story
I agree that the MOA needs a more powerful voice to be able to influence BMW NA to take a second look at problems when they occur.
As an example: I talked to the MOA staff 5 years ago and the only solution they had was to put me in touch with the MOA liaison person. I think his name was Jim. Jim was very nice and was kind enough to make a few phone calls for me but Jim admitted that he does not have any power to get anything done.
So the MOA forum moderators had no clue how to contact BMW. There helpful information was to give me the customer service 1-800 number. Trust me, the customer service reps are very nice but are nothing but talking heads.
Being a moderator has to require a lot of time and I appreciate them being willing to donate it. The forum would not work without their help.
It nothing else good comes out of my saga I hope that the forum will demand that the MOA get some "balls" and find out how to make BMW pay attention.
All right, I am off my soap box and will not be posting any new threads on this subject.
Thanks for all the positive replies and suggestions. I hope you have a good summer.
Several people asked why I waited 7 years to "demand" a new bike. The answer is that I did not wait. I have been asking for 5 years. It took three years to reach Anthony Cavanaugh. I spoke with the 1-800 customer service employees many times. They were nice but would not pass me up to the next level. I only received a call from Anthony after posting on the Motorrad facebook page asking for help.
The very first time that I had the bike repaired it was one month before the 3 year factory warranty expired. Most lemon laws state that you must have 3 or more repairs for the same problem during the warranty period. So it would have been difficult to win under the lemon law rules of TN.
If nothing else good comes out of this at least the members will know how to reach Anthony Cavanaugh(pre-litigation and vehicle buy-back manager). Anthony.cavanaugh@bmwna.com His direct line is 201-263-8215
Two weeks ago is the first time that BMW declared that "I have a unrepairable and defective bike and the only solution is a new engine". It took seven years for them to admit this and that is why I have started this email and social media campaign at this time.
You are right, $1,241.17 is an insulting amount of a buy-back offer and that is what got me all fired up and pissed off. If Anthony would have offered normal trade-in value I would have accepted it and bought a new bike and that would have been the end of the story
I agree that the MOA needs a more powerful voice to be able to influence BMW NA to take a second look at problems when they occur.
As an example: I talked to the MOA staff 5 years ago and the only solution they had was to put me in touch with the MOA liaison person. I think his name was Jim. Jim was very nice and was kind enough to make a few phone calls for me but Jim admitted that he does not have any power to get anything done.
So the MOA forum moderators had no clue how to contact BMW. There helpful information was to give me the customer service 1-800 number. Trust me, the customer service reps are very nice but are nothing but talking heads.
Being a moderator has to require a lot of time and I appreciate them being willing to donate it. The forum would not work without their help.
It nothing else good comes out of my saga I hope that the forum will demand that the MOA get some "balls" and find out how to make BMW pay attention.
All right, I am off my soap box and will not be posting any new threads on this subject.
Thanks for all the positive replies and suggestions. I hope you have a good summer.
