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    R1200RT-P 2nd Battery

    I have a 2006 R1200RT-P and wish to remove the second battery (located in the glove box). I realize that the second battery is charged by the alternator, so simple removal will create an alternator problem. I am also guessing that the relay located just below the battery is a charge relay and that removing this relay will allow the battery to be removed with out a problem--anyone got a clue? is this is correct........or have a the key to removal?
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    Hi Bobbbay - Interesting question regarding that 2nd battery issue in your bike. My thought is that you might have a talk with a mechanic at a police department which has some of these in service. You had not shared any location information with us, so maybe there's no one near you. Please give us some location information, and I'd bet someone could help.
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    Hi Bob,

    Check out this link.

    http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthre...ght=conversion

    It's in the BMW Lux bike forum. A fellow did a full conversion of a RTP To RT. I believe he addresses the battery issue.

    Hope it helps.

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    06 R1200RTP 2nd battery

    Quote Originally Posted by BinkleyLane View Post
    Hi Bob,

    Check out this link.

    http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/showthre...ght=conversion

    It's in the BMW Lux bike forum. A fellow did a full conversion of a RTP To RT. I believe he addresses the battery issue.

    Hope it helps.

    Bob
    Bob
    Thanks so much for sending the link, it will be helpful. It does not reference the second battery which is a shame, the second battery issue is only because it is located up high, takes up all of the glove box space and weighs about 20lbs. Just would be nice to get it off the bike, lower the weight and be able to use the glove box space.
    It is a shame there is such limited information on the "P" bike, great bike but finding help with issues is difficult.
    Once again, I really appreciate your help.
    Bob

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    Location..........06 RT1200RTP--2nd battery

    Quote Originally Posted by ExGMan View Post
    Hi Bobbbay - Interesting question regarding that 2nd battery issue in your bike. My thought is that you might have a talk with a mechanic at a police department which has some of these in service. You had not shared any location information with us, so maybe there's no one near you. Please give us some location information, and I'd bet someone could help.
    John,
    Thanks for your post. I am located in Blaine, WA. Nearest city of any size is Bellingham, WA and this is where the bike was in service. I have not called for assistance but think that will be my next move. The closest BMW dealer is Seattle (100+ miles), they seem a little cool to any assistance unless I take the bike to them. I can't blame them as that's how they make a living.
    There seems to be little in the way of help for the "P" bike, the stigma of "cop bike" seems to put folks off. I was able to get the wiring diagram for the police equipment but all hardware has been removed anyway. Electric issues for the R1200 are still normal and I have a diagram (in German) but it, again leaves a bunch to imagination.
    Once again, thank you for your post.
    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBBBAY View Post
    Bob
    Thanks so much for sending the link, it will be helpful. It does not reference the second battery which is a shame, the second battery issue is only because it is located up high, takes up all of the glove box space and weighs about 20lbs. Just would be nice to get it off the bike, lower the weight and be able to use the glove box space.
    It is a shame there is such limited information on the "P" bike, great bike but finding help with issues is difficult.
    Once again, I really appreciate your help.
    Bob
    May I suggest you email the author of this link? I am sure he had to deal with the battery issue even though he did not address it. Let me know and I will email him for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBBBAY View Post
    Bob
    Thanks so much for sending the link, it will be helpful. It does not reference the second battery which is a shame, the second battery issue is only because it is located up high, takes up all of the glove box space and weighs about 20lbs. Just would be nice to get it off the bike, lower the weight and be able to use the glove box space.
    It is a shame there is such limited information on the "P" bike, great bike but finding help with issues is difficult.
    Once again, I really appreciate your help.
    Bob
    Bob,
    I sent a question to the author of the RTP conversion link I forwared you earlier. I will let you know what he says.
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    R1200RT-P 2nd Battery

    Quote Originally Posted by BinkleyLane View Post
    Bob,
    I sent a question to the author of the RTP conversion link I forwared you earlier. I will let you know what he says.
    Bob,
    Thanks so much, I will hope to hear from him. Funny but BMW had an entire conversion kit for the earlier police bikes and even though expensive, they had some takers. Seems like there are quite a few 1200Ps out there but not too much infor--maybe I'm not digging hard enough!!
    Thanks so much for your post and time spent e-mailing the conversion author.
    Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBBBAY View Post
    Bob,
    Thanks so much, I will hope to hear from him. Funny but BMW had an entire conversion kit for the earlier police bikes and even though expensive, they had some takers. Seems like there are quite a few 1200Ps out there but not too much infor--maybe I'm not digging hard enough!!
    Thanks so much for your post and time spent e-mailing the conversion author.
    Bob
    Did not have much luck, here is his response.


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    A question please.

    Did you do anything about the second battery. A fellow RTP owner has ask about the removal of the second battery on the MOA forum and I volunteered to check with you.
    Bob

    My RT already had it removed, the connections were wrapped in rubber and tucked away. I have since installed a Alpine CD player in place.
    The connections are however still there if I ever want a second battery which I don't.
    Its a matter of removing the right tank fairing. Opening the CD player Tupperwarebox, disconnecting battery from relay and covering the connections so they don't short.

    Sorry I could not have been more helpfull.

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    Aux Battery

    Quote Originally Posted by BinkleyLane View Post
    Did not have much luck, here is his response.


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    A question please.

    Did you do anything about the second battery. A fellow RTP owner has ask about the removal of the second battery on the MOA forum and I volunteered to check with you.
    Bob

    My RT already had it removed, the connections were wrapped in rubber and tucked away. I have since installed a Alpine CD player in place.
    The connections are however still there if I ever want a second battery which I don't.
    Its a matter of removing the right tank fairing. Opening the CD player Tupperwarebox, disconnecting battery from relay and covering the connections so they don't short.

    Sorry I could not have been more helpfull.

    Bob
    Bob,
    This is the answer I have been looking for! Thank you soooooooo much for taking the time to follow my post; happy riding!
    Bob

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    Bob,

    While I realize North Seattle is still 90+ miles from Blaine, there is an alternative to Ride West BMW. Mick Vallantine used to be a certified BMW tech with Cascade BMW, a defunct BMW motorcycle dealer formerly located in Kirkland. He's had his own shop for quite a few years now. Best of all, he's an expert on RTPs! As I'm sure you're aware, the Washington State Patrol used to have a fleet of BMW RTPs. While they are slowly replacing the RTPs with ST1300 police bikes, there are still plenty of 1150RTPs and 1200RTPs in the State Patrol fleet. State Troopers are allowed to have their bikes worked on by whoever they want. Some take their bikes to Ride West, but most take their bikes to Mick. Since I too own a RTP, I like patronizing a mechanic who always has several State Patrol RTPs in the shop for service. He knows what he's doing when it comes to RTPs.

    http://www.vallantinemotorworks.com/

    For what it's worth, I like having the 2nd battery. I can always jump-start myself. I run my cockpit electronics (GPS, cell phone, radar detector, iPod) as well as my PIAA 1100x lights on the auxiliary battery circuit, with everything else running off the main battery circuit. If you want to eliminate 20 pounds of top-heavy weight, keep your gas tank half-full
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    Quote Originally Posted by OfficerImpersonator View Post
    Bob,

    While I realize North Seattle is still 90+ miles from Blaine, there is an alternative to Ride West BMW. Mick Vallantine used to be a certified BMW tech with Cascade BMW, a defunct BMW motorcycle dealer formerly located in Kirkland. He's had his own shop for quite a few years now. Best of all, he's an expert on RTPs! As I'm sure you're aware, the Washington State Patrol used to have a fleet of BMW RTPs. While they are slowly replacing the RTPs with ST1300 police bikes, there are still plenty of 1150RTPs and 1200RTPs in the State Patrol fleet. State Troopers are allowed to have their bikes worked on by whoever they want. Some take their bikes to Ride West, but most take their bikes to Mick. Since I too own a RTP, I like patronizing a mechanic who always has several State Patrol RTPs in the shop for service. He knows what he's doing when it comes to RTPs.

    http://www.vallantinemotorworks.com/

    For what it's worth, I like having the 2nd battery. I can always jump-start myself. I run my cockpit electronics (GPS, cell phone, radar detector, iPod) as well as my PIAA 1100x lights on the auxiliary battery circuit, with everything else running off the main battery circuit. If you want to eliminate 20 pounds of top-heavy weight, keep your gas tank half-full
    Or....mabey stop drinking beer. That CG is even higher than the tank....but not by much...LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBBBAY View Post
    Bob,
    This is the answer I have been looking for! Thank you soooooooo much for taking the time to follow my post; happy riding!
    Bob
    Great...Glad that worked out.
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    Maybe you are right!

    Quote Originally Posted by OfficerImpersonator View Post
    Bob,

    While I realize North Seattle is still 90+ miles from Blaine, there is an alternative to Ride West BMW. Mick Vallantine used to be a certified BMW tech with Cascade BMW, a defunct BMW motorcycle dealer formerly located in Kirkland. He's had his own shop for quite a few years now. Best of all, he's an expert on RTPs! As I'm sure you're aware, the Washington State Patrol used to have a fleet of BMW RTPs. While they are slowly replacing the RTPs with ST1300 police bikes, there are still plenty of 1150RTPs and 1200RTPs in the State Patrol fleet. State Troopers are allowed to have their bikes worked on by whoever they want. Some take their bikes to Ride West, but most take their bikes to Mick. Since I too own a RTP, I like patronizing a mechanic who always has several State Patrol RTPs in the shop for service. He knows what he's doing when it comes to RTPs.

    http://www.vallantinemotorworks.com/

    For what it's worth, I like having the 2nd battery. I can always jump-start myself. I run my cockpit electronics (GPS, cell phone, radar detector, iPod) as well as my PIAA 1100x lights on the auxiliary battery circuit, with everything else running off the main battery circuit. If you want to eliminate 20 pounds of top-heavy weight, keep your gas tank half-full
    Got to thinking about it and you have a good point. If I use the main batt. for electric clothing, cell, gps/map etc., I will need to wire the entire system to go off with the key or..........dead batt. If I run the aux. batt. dead, I just run the aux. batter dead;-it is isolated has no refection upon the main batt., this might be worth the extra 20LBS or so. It avoids the worry of screwing up the CanBus system in any way shape or form and since it already sports a aux. output, all things are good.

    My original thought was to re-engineer this bike, maybe I am on the wrong track-Germans are good engineers to start with. Listening to all the feedback I have received sort of gives me a better view of the problem.

    Now I am going to work onto the "P" bike expert in Kirkland (www.valantinemotorworks.com) to run a few ideas past him. I will pay him for an hours worth of time and see what he might have to say.

    Seems funny, I bought the "P" bike because of esthetics, I like the balance of how the radio box is the height of the dash, it is balanced. There are a lot of options that I would like to have had but once the emergency stuff is stripped, a different crash bar is installed--I like the balanced look of the bike.

    So, tell me a little about your RTP.

    Thanks so much for your suggestions: MOA folks rock!
    Bob

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