Ride safe, ride often, and enjoy it as much as you can. The dance won't last forever.
Mark M, St. Louis, '13 R1200GS, '01 Super Sherpa
There are two roads in life; the twisty one is vastly more fun.
But that being said, if you can't do the time (or handle the fine), then don't do the crime. LOL Or at least be judicious in the use of the throttle hand.
I'm older, so like a few others around here, I'm just not in such a big hurry to have encounters with traffic enforcement. And what's worked for me (last paid ticket in 1982) is being forthright with the officer. Play games, and they can play games right back...usually which ends with "Sign on this line please, this is not an admission of guilt, but merely a promise to appear in court, and press hard as there are 5 copies...".
PS. Our Bro-in-Law is a former traffic officer...and he speeds a LOT, but only in places where a "little" extra speed is "reasonable". Of course we grew up back in the old days in Nevada when there were NO posted speed limits on the open highway. Just "reasonable and proper for the existing conditions". Oh, for the good ol' days!!!
"I talked the cop out of giving me a ticket by ..." As a LEO, I can tell you from first hand experience, this is very very rare. While it may make someone feel good to think they talked the LEO into not issuing the summons, most likely it never happened. When the officer turns on his or her blue lights, it has already been decided whether the infraction warrants a summons or a warning.
The tactics presented will will aid in maintaining the officer's position on summons v warning but will very seldom have enough influence to change from ticket to warning. On the other hand, not using these tactics, being a jerk, can very quickly turn a warning into a summons.
Gear Up and Ride Safe
2010 R12GSA aka Heidi
1. Sorry, Officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't plugged in.
2. Aren't you the guy from the Village People?
3. Hey, you must've been doin' about 125 mph to keep up with me. Good job!
4. Are You Andy or Barney?
5. I thought you had to be in good physical condition to be a police officer.
6. You're not gonna check the trunk, are you?
7. I pay your salary!
8. Gee, Officer! That's terrific. The last officer only gave me a warning, too!
9. Do you know why you pulled me over? Okay, just so one of us does.
10. I was trying to keep up with traffic. I know there are no other cars around. That's how far ahead of me they are.
11. When the Officer says "Gee Son....Your eyes look red, have you been drinking?" You probably shouldn't respond with, "Gee Officer your eyes look glazed, have you been eating doughnuts?"
"Enemy fighters at 2 o'clock!...Roger, What should i do until then?"
2010 r1200r, 2009 harley crossbones, 2008 triumph/sidecar, 1970 norton commando 750
Now on a different point. What I notice motorcyclists on all brands do more than speed is pass on twisty roads in no passing zones. Yes, even those leading club group rides will do it. In N. Ga. that will get you a citation quicker then anything else.
One other tip:
While it is your right to contest ANY citation in court, do it wisely. NEVER argue with a judge that the speed limit should be something else than it is posted as. The traffic court judge is not there to determine what speed limits should be but only to decide whether or not or you did/did not exceed the speed limit by a given number of mph in a posted mph zone by the evidence and testimony presented. You will lose that one EVERY time and sometimes more expensively that just saying "I didn't do it."
I hire lawyers that keep me out of court. Last citation,,,this year. last conviction? 1963. I learned my lesson quickly and well.
309 N. 3rd. Ave.
Kure Beach, NC 28449
1996 R1100RT main bike & 1985 K100RS...too fast to believe.
OFF: Do you know why I stopped you?
OFF: You were exceeding the speed limit.
Me: No I wasn't.
OFF: yes you were Sir, I clocked you at 75. The speed limit is 55.
Me: No it isn't.
OFF: Yes it is Sir.
Me: No it's not and I can prove it.
OFF: how can you prove it?
ME: Here ya go Officer.
Nom de Plume:
Steve Aikens, Clovis, NM
BMW MOA #6218
now that's funny
Gear Up and Ride Safe
2010 R12GSA aka Heidi
186,000 miles a second...?
Wait, isn't that the same speed as Officer Motorola?
Naw Bill, that's the speed of his flashing lights.
IBA #44567 Pres. Springfield BMW Roadriders
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."