where there is a will there is a way!!!
dropped my 8GS in some mud. picked it up. dropped it again in some mud. picked it up, but not quite as quickly. dropped it again in some mud (believe, me, i was trying to get out of there, but the terra was not so firma, and was fighting my best intentions and efforts)- and this time, i could not get any solid footing- tires and boots were in mud, with nothing solid nearby. Walked out about a mile, found some teens to lend a hand, walked back in, and with 3 bodies, it was pieca-cake easy.
moral of the story- ride with company. and don't drop it in mud.
Last edited by bikerfish1100; 03-10-2014 at 08:10 PM.
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A guy at a Finger Lakes Rally had his R1200GS parked flat on the ground. I wandered over and asked if that would bother the battery. He said no. I asked how he planned on picking it up. He showed me, using the back-into-the-bike method. Then he laid the bike down the ground and had me do it. Then I did it a second time.
Okay, I'll admit it, I've picked my RT up off the ground twice now, but only the first month I've owned and not since then (bought new in '03).
PS: when putting the bike on the centerstand, follow Yoda's advice: "Not try, only do..."
While riding my '98 1100GS on a fireroad, I couldn't pick up the bike after dumping it. Having an 11 gal tank with about 8 gal in it I finally took the gas tank off and was able to get it up.
Ride far enough today so you can't come home untill tomorrow. 1998 BMW 1100GS
He picked it up no problem using the technique you describe. 80 years old, 800 lb bike.
The 'problem' with 99% of the "How to Pick Up a Bike" videos and illustrations out there is that it always involves a motorcycle that has crash bars, engine guards or side cases that suspend the bike off the surface with enough clearance for you to get some leverage when walking it upright. As a Motor Officer, I used to do these demo's all the time as a public service.
Not always the case, should your bike lack these attachments.
Under those circumstances, best to follow two pieces of previous advice in this thread:
Either carry rope to rig some sort of mechanical advantage from a fixed object (tree, pole, etc.), or simply ask for some assistance.
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I have never had to ask for assistance to pick up my RT. I'm usually in a situation with plenty of onlookers to witness my embarrassment and someone comes to my aid
The couple of times I've dropped it with no one around I was able to get it up myself
F8 has a 12:1 ratio engine which require premium fuel... no secret there. what's not commonly know is F8 motors don't have a knock sensor.
what that means is ... if/when you get a bad load of fuel. there is nothing to protect your F8 engine from destroying itself, except what's between your ears.
above scenario matters not if your F8 is remapped or not. if your bike starts to run funny with a loss of power. immediately after refueling.
STOP ... don't try to ride it out... take off your helmet/ear plugs, then carefully listen ... bad fuel is not the only thing that can cause loss of power. but if it happens immediately after refueling. a bad load of fuel is suspect.
easy to fix with no $$$... drain bad fuel, fill with fresh,.. then idle out remaining bad fuel in system. when engine no longer detonates with full throttle.... go on your way!
a bad load of fuel say with diesel mixed in can cause F8 engine to detonate. resulting in a destroyed engine very quickly. NO knock sensor, combined with full helmet and/or ear plug, could be very bad news.
lots of documented cases of folks destroying their almost new F800GS in remote locations with $2,500+ damages in short order.
unless something has changed... don't think BMW is advertising this scenario.
you might want to yank your almost new wheel bearings and repack with real grease. evidently lots of F800GS came with wheel bearing with very little to no grease inside sealed bearings. easy to fix with little to no $$$. pop off inside bearing seal, pack with grease... good to go.
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too many possible scenarios ... in known margin fuel areas like certain parts of SA. it's common for mama fuel vendors to operate out of 55 gal drums.
it's not possible to drain every last bit of fuel out of 55 gal with a barrel pump. say one time tank held diesel, then filled with gasoline. a gallon or so of diesel mixed in with gas will cause major problems with a high compression engine.
make sure you've got a big honking battery. Lots of cranking figuring out what's wrong and/or getting things going again.
easy to fix ... drain fuel, then idle out remaining fuel... when engine no longer knocks under load ... good to go.
can very difficult to hear engine detonation. especially with helmet and/or ear plug on. but the common giveaway is lost of power.
bad fuel is not the only thing that causes loss of power. but if loss of power happens immediately after refueling. a load of bad fuel is suspect!
STOP .. don't ride it out ... take your helmet off, then listen for engine knocks. once someone knows what to look for .. a major trip ending problem is avoided. broken rings, broken pistons, etc. $$$$ ... NO knock sensor to retard timing, so operator has to be the safety.
sure hope this info gets passed on ...