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....I When I get above around 35MPH the shield slams shut. I called Schuberth and they indicated that it was intended to ride closed
hmm.... frankly for me, that's going to be a non-starter then... I guess maybe I'll just keep my Arai.
Not an issue on a bike with a real windscreen.
My visor never self-closes when I'm on my RT with the giant Aeroflow windscreen, and it always self-closes when I'm on the GSA.
Get enough of the air pushed up and over the rider and the C3 visor will stay up all day long.
I have a new C3 (spring 2012) and had the same forehead issue. I resolved this with a rasp and it is now fine.
The bigger issue to me is that the face shield does not stay where left. I often ride with my shield open (like the wind in my face). When I get above around 35MPH the shield slams shut. I called Schuberth and they indicated that it was intended to ride closed (all the other helmets I have owned including a BMW System II were designed with a better detent on the shield holding it where it was placed), but I could try some fuzzy from a Velcro under the shield to increase pressure. I tried this and it improved, but not enough. I later removed the velcro and installed some O rings on the shield mounting posts - this has resolved the issue, but now the shield movement may be too stiff. Anyway, way to expensive a helmet to have an issue such as this.
I promised to report back..
I now have about 1,000 miles on it. And it's still great. Fit is perfect for me, snug with no hotspots. On my old C2's and the original Concept, I used to get some ear pain after 3-4 hours with my earplugs. None at all on the C3.
Biggest pluses to it I've found so far:
- Weight. Lighter IS better. Lots better. I don't get tired of riding as quickly.. (or at all really..)
- Wind-flow. Seems better then the C1 and C2, when I turn my head for a shoulder check, the helmet doesn't catch the wind at all, and it doesn't continue to turn a bit as the C1 and C2 did (I think windage + fit caused that.)
The dayglow seems to be catching on.. four local club members are sporting it now. It sure makes it easy to see the guy at the back of a line of riders if he's wearing the glowing-orb helmet.
Question for those who are using the Scala/Schuberth comm system.. can you hear it with earplugs in? While the C3 is lots quieter then my C2 or other helmets were, I still prefer to try to save my remaining hearing, so I always wear custom earplugs. Is the comm system usable that way?
I'm riding an R1200R with the helmet in fairly clear air.. I have several Cee-Bailey shields I swap on depending on the weather expected.
For the people expecting it to stay open at speed.. why? The "city" position (when the bottom of the shield isn't snapped into the snap-lock) works great for me unless I come to a complete stop. It's a real non-issue for me. I thought I'd miss the city-position the C1 and C2 had (where the screen popped forward), but I don't at all.
how is the ventilation when it's closed? Do you get airflow in the helmet with all vents open to max?
Great feedback! I really just want it for the GPS.. I have plenty of songs playing in my head anyway.. plus all the voices in there..I have the BMW headset system installed, and I can hear it just fine with the earplugs in. I had to turn the volume up a bit, but that is all. If I wore it withour earplugs, I would no doubt have to turn it back down. On the BMW integrated volume I went from a volume level of 10 to 13 when the earlpugs went in. Please note, however, that I am not listening to music. GPS or intercom only.
Thanks. I have an earbud setup now.. Etymotics and a bluetoof dongle that lives in my top pocket in the 'stich. Thing is - there are still wires flapping around, even if I'm not wired to the bike. And the wires tend to tug on the earbuds, pulling them loose in the helmet, which causes more noise and usually some pain. IMHO speakers are the way to go, if they can be heard.I ride with a Sena system on my C3. I wear ear buds and hear everything very well.
You might be happier with a much smaller shield. I know I am.. I've had the CalSci on mine, and while it provided lots of protection, it also provided too much isolation from the world for me. And as you noted - fogging eyeglasses can be a problem (not one I have anymore..)I ride an R1200R with a Parabellum Scout fairing that provides a great deal of protection. I regularly ride at highway speeds with the face shield up a bit, in what Schuberth calls the city position and it stays open just fine. I also ride with the shield fully open and normally have no problem keeping it open. If there is a cross wind the shield will sometimes not remain open as well. The biggest issue I have after putting 10,000 miles on the helmet in the past 2 months is in extended heavy rain. I wear glasses while riding and they tend to fog unless I open the shield to the city position. My fairing and screen set-up seems to cause a slight updraft behind it and that causes some rain to come into the helmet. I use a screen extender on the Parabellum and plan to try removing it in the rain to see if that stops the problem.
Good to hear!I am very happy with the C3. I have several very long days in it and it has remained comfortable throughout them all.
One point that I think some people may be missing.. the helmet has an almost locked closed position.. there is a plastic catch sorta deal on the bottom of the faceshield and the top edge of the chinbar. When it's engaged it pulls the shield into the recess and seals it up quite tightly. Good for rain, or - I've found - over about 70MPH (quiets things down even more.) If you don't engage it (and it takes a concious effort on mine, pushing both faceshield tabs down) the helmet is left cracked open along the bottom edge, about 1/8" - with a smaller gap also around the two sides. At any reasonable speed that allows quite a bit of air into the helmet.