Your not going to get Honda riders off their Goldwings or Harley riders off their Ultra Classics. They are as didicated to their clubs and brands as we are. Any comparison of these bikes for all practical purposes is illrelevent. Their happy, we're happy.
I was happy on them all.
HD makes a good motorcycle.
Then I made the mistake of demo riding a R1200GS on the street.
My lord, I forgot how much fun riding a motorcycle was.
Traded the E-Glide in on an r12gs, bought a r11rt for a while, bought a r1150rt for a while, traded it in on a f650gs.
Now have 2 gs's in the garage.
And I'm happy.
I just got off of my GL1800 after 4 years of blissful riding mostdays year round unless there was snow or ice on the road. I never thought I would want anything else, then, the K1600 came along. WOW! DonÔÇÖt get me wrong. I loved my Wing and I am a young rider who loves to spend time in the twisties, no itÔÇÖs not a CBR , GSXR etc.. but for all day riding I thought it did whatever I asked of it and did it well.
IÔÇÖd never had a BMW before and I picked up my new GTL two weeks ago and have been impressed every day since. My wife thinks it actually rides a little better than the wing as she never gets airborne on the bumps like she did on the wing and she can see better as she sits a little higher. She liked the grab handles on the wing better but I think sheÔÇÖs getting used to the new ones. The only places the GTL comes up short compared to the wing for me is cruising on the highway at speeds greater than 80mph, itÔÇÖs just not the same, which is probably good as my cruising speed has dropped by 5 or 10 mph. The other thing is the stock windshield in the rain; I never really got wet with the wing and with the GTL If I have the shield just bellow my line of sight I get a shower. I donÔÇÖt like looking though the shield so I donÔÇÖt think IÔÇÖll be changing it out and I love the adjustability on the fly, way too cool. It is much more like a sport tour but with all of the conveniences of the larger touring bikes.
Shuberth helmets donÔÇÖt fit my head but it didnÔÇÖt stop me from buying the bike.
I traded my 2010 GL1800 about a month ago for my new dark blue K16GTL I would agree with other comments about the difference between a Lincoln Touring car and my BMW 550i. I enjoyed the Wing, but the K bike has put the fun back in motorcycling for me. My past includes about 8 H-Ds, 2 R1150GS, a KLT, R1100RT, 2 Wings, Triumphs and a Norton or two in my 45 years of riding. I loved them all especially the GSs. The K16GTL is my ideal bike at this stage of my life; blistering torque (blew off a Corvette the other day in "sport" and "dynamic") and pretty comfortable for long distances and just a real hoot to ride. Plus, it's styling is very eye catching. My sweet wife likes it, too. Happy wife, happy life.
These articles on mismatched machines always remind me of the first one that was ever done: Car and Driver's comparison, in their March 1964 issue, of the Ferrari GTO and Pontiac GTO. That really put the magazine on the map."to sell mags you need controversy"...40624
"When you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there."
Yet you would between the Honda and the BMW.
A Honda is a Toyota
A Harley is a Chevy
A BMW is a BMW.
Three mutually exclusive cultures and concepts.
It's OK to choose the one that fits you best.
It's not realistic to consider them similar tools.
Well, then there's this ...
... While neither Toyota or Chevy can command BMW prices, it appears Honda at times can and Harley for sure does. Ain't marketing grand?
'12 R1200RT, '02 R1100S, '84 R80G/S
Not too big and heavy for me, but I agree with the comment on maintenance. I think BMW should reevaluate it's design philosophy in that they should make their bikes easier to live with. When you look at the average car, all you have to do is change the oil and add fuel. Somehow this is lost on BMW. It hasn't been lost with Japanese bike manufacturers (or some American ones either).
As far as I'm concerned, there's no comparison to be made between these bikes. The GTL is in a class all by itself. If BMW wants to compete with the GW then they need to get busy and either rebuild the GTL or just start from scratch and build a better LT. If they do then Honda will most likely finally add a power windshield...That would put em back on top of the list for LD, big assed touring rigs.
For now, I have a 2010 RT which I'm thinking of either selling or trading for a GTL. Honestly, I miss my 2002 LT.
2010 RT Ostra Grey
2010 RT Ostra Grey