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    My first jacket was black. Cheap as well. That's why I bought it. I still wear it when I don't want to wear my heavy Rally II, or my mesh Hi Vis. It is just way too hot in the summer though, even with all venting open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgadley01 View Post
    Why did I buy a silver Transition 2 winter jacket??? It can't be machine washed or dry cleaned. I should have bought a black one.
    I machine wash mine, no problem.

    There are two things you need to be careful about. Regular laundry soap will destroy goretex, so use the appropriate NikWax product. You also need to mate all the velcro parts together so the hooks don't tear up the nylon fabric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mclassing View Post
    I have a silver Transition 2 and wash it on gentle using the Nikwax Tech Wash product.

    Black areas came out a bit grey but that has since worn away. I'd wash it again tomorrow if it needed it.
    Where can I purchase Nikwax Tech Wash?????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elgin Mary View Post
    How do you clean it?

    Mary
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    I don't...The wife wipes it with a damp cloth when it gets Too bad. Its mostly the lower sleaves that get soiled.
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    Aerostich Transit Two-Piece Suit: it's leather but is specially made with a "solar-reflective pigment" that will "wear up to 30 degrees cooler." Also waterproof. If it's as good as the other Aerostich riding gear, it's excellent. I haven't tried one but spoke with another rider who had one and he loved it. Oh yea, it $1,595.

    My Olympia AST jacket was substantially cheaper and in high-viz yellow is impossible to get or keep clean.

    pete

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    Nikwax products are available at REI and other camping/sporting goods stores.

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    Because black is supposed to be slimming............

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    I just bought a Rev'It! Tornado suit that is a light grey mesh. They say to remove all of the armor and wash it by soaking in water (no machine wash). I wonder if Woolite would work.
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    Here we go...I was looking for bicycle (non-motorized two wheeler to be clear) shorts. ALL stores in town only carried BLACK. I complained to all the shop owners about that. And their typical answer was..."because our customers prefer black".

    I like colors so on the motorcycle I wear flashy colorful pants from our friends in the off-road department. Which means I CANNOT join an ADVrider rallye in this outfit.

    /Guenther

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommcgee View Post
    Regular laundry soap will destroy goretex...
    Cite, please. I ask because I believe Aerostich recommends regular laundry detergent when washing their gear with Goretex.

    If my memory is correct the recommended procedure was
    • wash with detergent
    • wash a second time without detergent to get all traces of detergent out of the garment
    • wash a third time with a wash-in waterproofing.

    I use extra rinse on the first two washes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marchyman View Post
    Cite, please. I ask because I believe Aerostich recommends regular laundry detergent when washing their gear with Goretex.

    If my memory is correct the recommended procedure was
    • wash with detergent
    • wash a second time without detergent to get all traces of detergent out of the garment
    • wash a third time with a wash-in waterproofing.

    I use extra rinse on the first two washes.
    Nikwax labels say that detergents can damage Goretex waterproofing.

    There's conflicting info on Goretex'x own pages, on the one hand telling you to use detergent in the washing instructions and then telling you that detergents destroy the waterproofing. Their "fix" is to put it in the dryer to restore it. Why would you want to destroy the DWR waterproof coating in the first place? You don't have to use detergent.

    I use TechWash and TX Direct from Nikwax and have had excellent results on lots of jackets and pants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommcgee View Post
    Why would you want to destroy the DWR waterproof coating in the first place? You don't have to use detergent.
    Ahhh, got it. The DWR is NOT the Goretex.

    The detergent will remove the DWR but apparently it does no harm to the Goretex. If my next step is to replenish the DWR I don't remind removing the remains of the old. I've two goretex jackets (not motorcycle gear) in the dryer as I type this. I just finished a wash with detergent, an extra rinse, and a wash with Nikwax wash in waterproofing. I've used this procedure many times on various pieces of Goretex gear. It seems to work well.

    My limited experience with techwash is that it doesn't get my riding gear as clean as detergent.

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    The brighteners and other additives in detergent supposedly plug up the pores in Gore Tex. That's why Aerostich does the multiple rinse.

    Pretty sure I read somewhere that Nikwax Techwash is just pure soap. Probably any castile soap like Dr. Bonners would work the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marchyman View Post
    My limited experience with techwash is that it doesn't get my riding gear as clean as detergent.
    You must not be wearing black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnywishbone View Post
    i an a harley stripped softail guy. I don't wear the black darth vader crap. I am beauty.
    I am also a r1200rt guy. I wear schuberth c3 and technical riding gear from bmw motorrad.
    Simply because i'm old and if i fall off, i know i'll come apart, and it's gonna hurt. My riding skills are poor.
    Pain purifies, but i'm already pure enough. Jp
    +1
    uh not the harley part...

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