I dont think the rally sucked at all, but........it could have been laid out a bit better to make things more accessable without marathon walking. It was a big facility.
Bike parking closer to the attractions and vendors would have been nice.
After arriving at the beer garden a 1/4 mile hike seems a bit on the dark side, then another 1/4 mile hike to the port-a-johns from the garden. After one visit I went to the store and bought a supply for the camp and never returned. Convienience, and having a great time, was not uppermost in the minds of the planners.
The Shuttles should have stopped at all campground entrances, as well as attractions, and spaced their arrivals/departures more evenly. This might have required another shuttle. (And a little planning and thought by the operators)
These all could have been executed with a minimum of cost and effort.
That said, it was a near perfect location and a great facility to host a National rally.
I wasn't there all that long but I don't think the parking situation was bad. There were what, 7000 bikes? If you build that kind of parking into the middle of the rally ground then everything is happening in a parking lot and people would be complaining that they had to walk around all of those bikes to get from one vendor to the next.
As has been said, some people really need to walk more. This idea that you should be able to ride up to each activity is just not feasible with this size event. The golf carts are bad enough (and don't get me started on airports).
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However, I did have one comment; the final presentation still needs some work. Here's my idea...
Most award presentations I have attended included music between the agenda items, music to build anticipation and to put emphasis on the winners!
The 10 to 20 or 30 seconds of "dead air" throughout the event is what I felt bored everyone to tears! Fill the void with a little music score, A little animation and large screen backdrop so those in the back can be part of the group! Show a simple slide show showing the next years Oregon rally roads and overview maps of where next years national will be held. Do a slide show on the rally raffle bikes to increase the anticipation. Do a slide show of snippets of winners Last Years Grand Award.
Call me nuts, but the planners should also do some kind of opening ceremony maybe Friday? Announcing events, changes, rides, yadayada, but lend marketing organization to an already fantastic agenda! I think the BMWMOA has it down good in terms of content at the rally, but some of that content never reaches the average rally user.
Show upcoming BMW events, BMW Promotional Video (let BMWNA co-host the presentation$$$) Have a big 2'x5' check showing the total contributions as Ray hands it to whom-ever-we-gave -money-to charity. Having a production would be cool, and have held the interest, if mixed in with the ceremony. Stay about the same length, but fill the time up. Lastly, consider showing a picture of club members no more on the big screen, a few seconds in silence for our good members who have passed on during the last year, or died; show some respect for their passing. This can be good TV if done right..
I have a whole lot good and praise for the organizers and to say about the entire rally, but won't detail in this thread anyway!
This was my 5th National Rally and it was the worst; Texas; Virginia, Michigan, Ohio; plus to RA rallies, local Airhead rallies, along with a dozen Daytona trips. However, I am not a Rally Rat, but also not a Rally Virgin. Can you satisfy everybody: no; however some of the basic stuff sucked. Thank God I pre-registered; that would have added to the nightmare. Specifics:
1. The routing through vendors is dumb!! One way traffic I can understand, but the whole concept of riding through the entire fair grounds is crazy. I was already pissed off before I put up my tent.
2. No flat ground to be found for the tent. That is insane!! Unless you had special needs or where on the committee so you could park in the livestock area you were sleeping on the hill.
3. Showers: Only 2 trucks!! You got to be kidding me. Long lines and not clean either.
4. Portajohns: Not cleaned often enough, not enough out there... At prior rallies they were cleaned at least twice a day and were never out of TP.
5. Music should have had a better variety.
6. The grass or fields should have been mowed down more.
7. Trash should have been emptied more frequently.
8. I still don't like the vendor's closing down at 6 pm. Most of us like to ride during the day and shop in the evening... All the vendor's already have to buy a special license to sell, but at least be open longer.
9. Closing ceremony was too long, too much unneeded information was given and some of the information was already printed in the MOA Magazine. And what was up with all the re-drawing??? Never happened before, but at least you had to be present to win.
On a positive note: The roads were great, temperatures were tolerable and I was in good company. Next year I am going to Germany instead and ride the Alps...
Keep the rubber side down!!
1986 R 80 RS
1992 R 100 R
BMW MOA Life member; Ironbutt Member; Airhead Member
Instead of Germany, you should volunteer and bring your expertise to the Oregon rally! We need more flexible and positive input!
Das Leben ist 'ne Wundertute!
Agreed...........I still don't like the vendor's closing down at 6 pm.
But as far as everything else, I must have been at a different rally or my timing was perfect. I never waited for anything..........
2007 BMW K1200R Sport (abs),2007 Suzuki dl650 V Strom (abs),2004 Honda VFR (abs),1972 Honda Trail 90,
2001 Moto Guzzi V-11 Rosso Mandello
The other complaints makes me wonder if I was at the same rally.
'You can say what you want about the South, but I almost never hear of anyone wanting to retire to the North.
I had a great time at the rally. This was my third National and the best, IMHO. The portapotties could have been cleaner though..................
Thanks to Vance and EVERYONE who worked/volunteered.
Green Mountain Crewzr
'73 R60/5 Toaster
BMW MOA #124866, BMW MOV #1080
We had a great time...3rd National...still a rookie
What do you expect with near 8K folks in a rolling hilled fairgrounds? We managed the traffic in/out of the grounds...yes, it was crowded and folks do not pay attention...happens anywhere. Wanting to ride to every place on the grounds is why some of you huff & puff over a little walk... Take a walk and enjoy the neighbors. I applaud the effort that the folks put in to make that place work given the challenges. We did not camp but did notice the challenges there as well...nothing like camping at a 8K event anyways! Been there...got the trophy. The Wisconsin Rally as was Gillette were in modern facilities...this was not...but the scenery and riding made up for that tenfold. As mentioned...if you think it's broken ...volunteer to help make it better.
My only point is still the closing ceremony...I am sure this will be a talking point at every rally, but some good ideas so far to improve it have been mentioned.
My biggest peeve was the hurry- hurry of the mileage awards presentation...and the second place mens who still tried to "win" by adding his yearly mileage which was still announced (which a lot of was on his Harley even during the contest cause his BMW was down...which was NOT mentioned of course) Dude...you lost this year...you diminished the current winners accomplishment of 68K ON a BMW in the contests time frame...get over it and don't write another article in the ON whining either please. I am related to and ride often with this years winner so maybe taking it a little personal.
SABMWRA MOA Club#62's Flat Fixer/ current forum moderator
It's not the breaths you take, but the moments that take your breath away-D.Dillon/G. Strait
If the numbers are going to be in the 8,000 area, we might should consider larger fairgrounds. The camping was crowded, slippery and sloped. Yes, I know, twisty roads=sloped tents, straight roads=flat camping. The beer tent should have been in front of the stage. You could not hear very well from the side. And why couldn't we take beer out on the grassy portion in front of the stage? I agree with the need of more food vendors near the beer tent. Really though, I had a great time. I just took a flask into the grassy area. I would have bought beer if I could have heard the band, or took it out front.