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    for any gore-tex type fabric ANY type of detergent powder or liquid will plug up those microscopic pores. us a non-detergent cleaner only! "Simple Green" works great. not too bad on the nose either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Becky View Post
    I see that you guys can wash your gear and your motorcycle with the greatest of care, but when it comes to washing clothes or cleaning around the house you don't have any idea how or when to do it. Is that another man thing!

    Becky
    I was wondering the same thing!

    You guys just blew your cover!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancogan View Post
    Using liquid detergent is the worst for Gore Tex. Use a powdered detergent if at all possible. And several rinse cycles.
    Well so far so good using both powdered detergent in the past and now using Shout these past two years.

    As I mentioned, rinsing the suit several times is the key.

    As for claims not to use this, not to use that...please show me some proof in the way of a bulletin and preferably not from a company with a vested interest like Nikwax. Yes, they make good stuff; I use their Map Proof and their Aqueous Wax on my Asolo hiking boots, but I draw the line on their Tech Wash and TX.Direct Wash In...just a bit too pricey for me, at least up here it is.


    Quote Originally Posted by dancogan View Post
    First time I ran in the rain the suit was frothing up like an overloaded washing machine! Actually looked kinda funny.
    Rinse, rinse and rinse!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvandkq View Post
    Gore-Tex won't work when dirty. It won't repel water and it won't breathe your body perspiration out, so you'll get wet from the outside and inside if you don't take care of it.
    On the subject of Gore-Tex and similar products, my opinion is that it is over-rated. Still good to have, but over-rated.

    Gore-Tex talks about the ability for body perspiration to make it through their membrane, yet keep water out. Well that works all very nice on artist's drawings, but how much water/body perspiration does it let through per unit area and at what relative humidity? If it is raining out full force with 100% humidity, I doubt very much of your body perspiration is going to go anywhere. Result: a damp suit...on the inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalRider View Post
    As for claims not to use this, not to use that...please show me some proof in the way of a bulletin and preferably not from a company with a vested interest like Nikwax. Yes, they make good stuff; I use their Map Proof and their Aqueous Wax on my Asolo hiking boots, but I draw the line on their Tech Wash and TX.Direct Wash In...just a bit too pricey for me, at least up here it is.
    Rinse, rinse and rinse!
    Cheapskate BMW owners crack me up. Will pay $25,000 for a new bike. Will pay $800 for a riding suit. Won't pay $8 for a bottle of detergent designed to wash and protect $800 riding suit. To each their own, but to ride a BMW but complain about a $8 bottle of detergent makes me laugh.

    If $8 is too steep for you, better trade the BMW in on a Suzuki.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Becky View Post
    I see that you guys can wash your gear and your motorcycle with the greatest of care, but when it comes to washing clothes or cleaning around the house you don't have any idea how or when to do it. Is that another man thing!

    Becky
    Funny but just the other day I heard two women at work talking and one was complaining about how her hubby is always giving her more clothes to wash and how she hated having to do nothing but washing. I didn't say anything though I wa!nted to just butt in and tell her to her hubby to do his own damn washing! Ha ha!

    I do my own, all in one big load, wham and its done....then I go for a ride...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Becky View Post
    I see that you guys can wash your gear and your motorcycle with the greatest of care, but when it comes to washing clothes or cleaning around the house you don't have any idea how or when to do it. Is that another man thing!

    Becky
    Sorry.... I always wanted to use this smilely.

    Yeah...It's a man thing for me.

    But when said washer starts making loud noisies and leaks water all over the floor, above mentioned man takes it apart and replaces bearing, reseals the drum and then after he washes his hands........he goes for a ride.

    After returning that night he discards his dirty clothing, knowing that they will appear at a later date, clean and ready to wear.

    The cycle is once again complete. All is right with the universe.





    P.S. The cleaning lady has her own K75 and I have to buy new socks every now and again as the laundry tends to back up on nice days????

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    Womans work...

    Okay guys, I am alone now so I can say this, not that I aint the boss around here...

    My nephew asked the secret to a long lasting relationship... told him that if you have to mix soap with water, it is woman's work.

    Also told him to marry pretty... you can teach a beautiful woman to cook, but you can't teach an ugly cook to be beautiful......


    Any replies will be answered as soon as I get out of the hospital...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvandkq View Post
    Cheapskate BMW owners crack me up. Will pay $25,000 for a new bike. Will pay $800 for a riding suit. Won't pay $8 for a bottle of detergent designed to wash and protect $800 riding suit. To each their own, but to ride a BMW but complain about a $8 bottle of detergent makes me laugh.

    If $8 is too steep for you, better trade the BMW in on a Suzuki.
    I wish a bottle of your stuff ran me $8.

    Considering my Gore-Tex suit breathes, is waterproof and looks like the day I bought it...what more could I want. I guess I could spend more and get no more.

    BTW, you're assuming a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvandkq View Post
    Cheapskate BMW owners crack me up. Will pay $25,000 for a new bike. Will pay $800 for a riding suit. Won't pay $8 for a bottle of detergent designed to wash and protect $800 riding suit. To each their own, but to ride a BMW but complain about a $8 bottle of detergent makes me laugh.

    If $8 is too steep for you, better trade the BMW in on a Suzuki.
    Yep, I'm one of those guys; I saved for years by buying cheap shampoo, and finally had enough money saved to

    BUY A BMW!


    What a joke!

    Whatta ya win the lottery where money is no object? Gimme a break, each to his or her own, and more power to em is what I say!

    If I washed my old Joe Rocket outfit WITH ANYTHING but water I'm afraid it would fall to pieces! I just spray it every year, and I save my money for good women and great pie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by apopj View Post
    My nephew asked the secret to a long lasting relationship... told him that if you have to mix soap with water, it is woman's work.
    Don't laugh.

    When I'm in Italy at my girlfriend's house, I have to sneak out to the fountain to do a wash.

    Not a minute goes by and incredibly the women (and men) can hear me scrubbing away.

    The women give me hell and the men tell me I'm setting a bad example.

    I give up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvandkq View Post
    Cheapskate BMW owners crack me up. Will pay $25,000 for a new bike. Will pay $800 for a riding suit. Won't pay $8 for a bottle of detergent designed to wash and protect $800 riding suit. To each their own, but to ride a BMW but complain about a $8 bottle of detergent makes me laugh.

    If $8 is too steep for you, better trade the BMW in on a Suzuki.
    It isn't about "steep". It's about wasting money - or not. From my sometimes thrifty perspective, spending $8 when $2.50 will do is a waste of money. Many of us, myself and you included, didn't buy our bikes new. Many of us try to be careful with our limited funds. Some are on fixed incomes. Some are riding bikes that cost not much more than their riding gear. Not everyone can afford to waste money, even $5 or so. Some, of course, are just being cheap, but who are you or I to judge? Please try to be respectful of those who make different choices or have different means that yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Statdawg View Post
    Are Suzuki's cheap ?

    I am not sure if everyone knows, but there is a group of riders which are loved in our BMW Community known as the Poverty Rider. Since we embrace diversity here we should not limit ourselves to being a bunch of snobs knit-picking over a few dollars that another rider may or may not have. Nor offend a campfire attendee looking for advice and guidance.

    There are cheaper and better products available that work extremely well even if it is vinegar, lemon juice, or Yak urine. Some of these alternative products are environmentally friendly so they will not kill a clam down stream in your favorite sea side community. So if there is a bio-friendly stitch cleaner please allow it to be mentioned here on the forum. Please be open minded we all don't live in America.

    I have no problems in what you ride and what items one takes on their journey. To prove a point wealth verses ownership to get to a destination, I should mention a fellow rider named Simon. This known suspense and adventure novelist has toured Central and South America on an 125cc motorcycle and he is currently coming up the eastern seaboard. So as far as pricey bikes, gear, or even watches no one really notices but you the rider. They all get you to the same destination so what is the problem ? The money one saves might be used to help the less fortunate that may not have a generous country that we are blessed with.


    I agree, I ride a 24 year old BMW because It fits me and it does everything I need it to do. If a new model comes out that fits me better and does more of what I need, then I will buy that one.
    Enough of the $$$........

    I'm interested in finding a good cleaner for my 1st wash of a Commuter jacket. I heard the colors will bleed in the rain if you don't set them by washing first.
    I have a front load washer and would like to get it right the first time with this jacket. Actually we have two of them, the laundry lady has one too.

    So here is what I have seen so far:

    Oxi Clean
    Shout
    Nikwax
    Fabreze
    Simple Green

    Sounds like liquid soap and powder soap are not favored. Gentle hand washing or a front load washer on gentle or normal cycle. What is the general concenses here on which to use. Nikwax has the highest amount recommendations so far.

    I have an old Fieldsheer jacket that I will wash first, that one has seen battle and has been washed with what ever soap was used that day. Its black faded to olive drab by UV and many washes, you know one of those jackets you can't kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcridge View Post
    I agree, I ride a 24 year old BMW because It fits me and it does everything I need it to do. If a new model comes out that fits me better and does more of what I need, then I will buy that one.
    Enough of the $$$........

    I'm interested in finding a good cleaner for my 1st wash of a Commuter jacket. I heard the colors will bleed in the rain if you don't set them by washing first.
    I have a front load washer and would like to get it right the first time with this jacket. Actually we have two of them, the laundry lady has one too.

    So here is what I have seen so far:

    Oxi Clean
    Shout
    Nikwax
    Fabreze
    Simple Green

    Sounds like liquid soap and powder soap are not favored. Gentle hand washing or a front load washer on gentle or normal cycle. What is the general concenses here on which to use. Nikwax has the highest amount recommendations so far.

    I have an old Fieldsheer jacket that I will wash first, that one has seen battle and has been washed with what ever soap was used that day. Its black faded to olive drab by UV and many washes, you know one of those jackets you can't kill.
    You can use whatever detergent you want as long as you thoroughly rinse all the detergent out of the fabric. You have a front loader, which is half the battle. Front loaders extract much more detergent out of the fabric through the rinse process than top loaders.

    Run them through once with detergent (I follow the manufacturer's recommendations and use Nikwax) and then wash at least twice more WITHOUT detergent. This will remove every last bit of detergent from your jacket, allowing the micropores of your waterproof-breathable fabric to open and, well, breathe.

    If you don't thoroughly rinse the detergent out of the fabric, it won't repel water as well and it won't breathe at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Becky View Post
    I also clean the bikes (mind and my husband) after riding. We both work on the race bike and the old bikes. The newer ones are harder to work on and a lot of plastic to deal with. I also have a neat tool box if I can keep my husband away from it.

    Becky
    I love a woman with her own tool box!!!! If I could just get my wife to wash my RT my life would be complete. lol

    As for washing clothes, I was banned from everything except towels and my riding gear. I use Nickwax products for the riding gear since it is especially formulated for Goretex. The reason my wife bans me from washing clothes is that she uses some kind of magical system for sorting and stuff and knows what fabrics require the specific voodoo incantation (all of which she will not share with me). But we (men) just do not have a great interest in regular clothes just the fun ones (like riding suits)

    Cheers

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