Last edited by grossjohann; 01-20-2008 at 02:17 AM. Reason: Image lost when thread moved to Photography Forum
So I took some shots. Okay a bunch of them. I learned a few things along the way also. I am having some trouble getting the white balance tweaked in. Here are the 26 photos straight out of the camera - all that I did was run the RAW photos through Lightroom to convert to JPG for upload to smugmug.
So I understand the rules of not photoshopping, so here are the six keepers. But I wanted to improve the output a little more so I did white balance, crop, rotate, tweaks in Lightroom. I kept the file names the same so that they can be compared and "whipped".
I figured out that I need more light, and probably a better background solution.
My two motorcycle keys
I did not like how close I got to them
Here it is cleaned up some - just cropped and white balanced
So I did some closeups holding the camera instead of using the tripod
Here it is a little cleaned up
A few more keys cleaned up - white balance, crop, rotate.
So then I wanted to get Write to the point -
Then it got a little skewed
Cropped a little and WB
Straight out of camera
It isn't what you ride, it is if you ride
This one's HOT!
This one's not.
Last one. But it's hard to stop.
Anywho, I took a stab at further tweaking the above image and came up with this:
This is by no means perfect and I'm sure there are others on our site who are far more familiar with these programs. I can't remember everything I did, but for the most part I fiddled a bit with color temperature, greatly increased the exposure, reduced contrast (unusual for me), played with sharpening a bit, and really cranked "lens vignetting." Most zoom lenses vignette a bit, that is appear darker in the corners. This is hard to notice unless against a light background and you are looking for it. LightRoom has a correction for this under "lens corrections" of all places.
One of the chief difficulties with this image is that it's on a plain, white background. Camera light meters are engineered to register 18% gray reflectance. Anything starkly different than that (total white or total black) throws the meter off. I think the issue here was not so much white balance (maybe a little) but that your picture was underexposed because the camera's light meter was fooled. When photographing a plain white background (snow for example) one should OVERexpose by about two stops; conversely, a plain black background (a spotlit stage for example) one should UNDERexpose by about two stops. Counterintuitive, perhaps, but trust me on this.
Did you have it set for centerweighted or evaluative? CW metering is the old-fashioned system used by cameras for the past fifty years. The evaluative system is a light meter controlled by a computer program trained to correct typical lighting problems like backlighting, white or dark backgrounds, etc. They're very good, but far from perfect.
Post-processing is an art all unto itself and I've only begun to scratch the surface. I'd love to take a class one of these days. . . . . However, the knowledge about under- and overexposing high contrast backgrounds would negate the need for editing software to render the above image. Just sayin'.
Sometimes when I click on "Quote" the reply includes the text and the photo I am replying to. Sometimes only the text shows up in the reply.
In #106 - no photo! In #109 I got the photo.
I'm guessing that it has something to do with an attached photo vs a URL referenced photo. Any clues??
Your assumption about attached vs. URL is accurate, I think; however, in this particular case, in #106 you were quoting a message in which the photo itself was quoted. I guess it only works when you quote the message with the original URL'd photo.
Strictly speaking, not a torx bit. Sorry.