cjack
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I love to hear a Wisconsinite say the word Sheboygan.
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Swimming at Rally-Speeding in WI
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I love to hear a Wisconsinite say the word Sheboygan.
J
JCABRANES
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I think you are referring to a woman who worked for the Chicago Tribune and was stopped for speeding in Racine. This woman apparently wrote an article claiming that Racine County targeted drivers with Illinois license plates. After much hooplah she eventually pled to an amended charge in which she acknowledged that she had been speeding. Frankly, in 12 years of practicing law, a significant portion of which is traffic law, I have not seen anything which leads me to believe that the Racine Sheriff's Department or the Wisconsin State Patrol are targeting Illinois (or other out of state) drivers.
There are also very good reasons why there is enhanced enforcement in this area. Over the last 3-4 years there have been spectacular high speed fatal crashes in Racine County. On one occassion one or more of the cars involved burst into flames. On another occassion an off duty Racine County Sheriff's deputy was killed. Because of this the local LEO's have been instructed to crack down on speeding. Cause and effect.
I agree with you... drive like an ass and chances are that you will be caught and have to pay.
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535IS
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As a 'recovering Ohioan' still in culture shock after moving here in 1991, I can offer a different perspective from our Sheboygan LEO contributor.
I am virtually always 10 mph over the posted limit (NOT school zones! NOT congested areas!). I am also virtually always ignored when doing so. The only time I was not was when a very young Sheboygan County deputy decided that, while the gooseneck-hauling dually and the Grand Cherokee ahead of me were perfectly safe at 74.9 mph on I-43, I, in my Audi 200 Quattro at 75.0, was not. At least, he claimed that they were going slower than I, even though I'd followed them at exactly the same distance (with my cruise control on) since the Hwy 57 split south of Port Washington.
Know that I-43 is three things. It is the biggest damn road up through eastern Wisconsin, so the local LEOs have little else to do but microwave it. As a consequence, it is where all the out of state drivers travel, so of course, many of them get stopped out there at least in part because the prevailing flow of traffic isn't the 80 mph you can easily get away with in Cook County, IL. Finally, it is also a 'drug interdiction' route. As virtually the only way drugs flow from Chicago & Milwaukee to Green Bay, the Manitowoc and Sheboygan county LEOs delight in stopping 'suspect vehicles' for almost any reason on I-43 between Manitowoc and Sheboygan. A loud muffler might get you a body cavity search, especially if your license plate happens to read "UZI 9MM" (Yup; honest-to-God, I saw that one - pulled over in Sheboygan County).
Wisconsin is not a 'full disclosure' state like Ohio, which at least requires some markings on patrol cars doing traffic stops. They use completely unmarked cars and they have been known (at least in Sheboygan County) to resort to the use of such things as a nondescript old Dodge Omni to stop and cite bikers headed to the races at Road America. As for the threat of aircraft, I wouldn't worry a whole lot about it. Two years ago, Wisconsin only had one airplane doing traffic duty - and we sold it.
The pavement markings are still around, but the airplane isn't.
The last thing to bear in mind is that, if you do have a forfeiture (most traffic matters are noncriminal for a number of prosecution-favorable and revenue-friendly reasons) to pay, it will probably shock you. While our quoted 'fines' are very reasonable, the additional fees and court costs border on the obscene. The only thing under $100 is a ($20) seatbelt violation. Everything else begins at $122 - and that's a (state charge) parking violation. The smallest forfeiture for speed is $193. The only upside to this is that Wisconsin is one of only two states east of the Mississippi that is not a member of the Interstate Violators Compact, so it is possible that any violations sustained here won't show up in your home state's records - unless your state happens to be adjacent to Wisconsin.
If you have a serious traffic matter while in Wisconsin, feel free to call my cell number at 920-AHA-YODA. I am primarily a bankruptcy lawyer, but I know traffic law, I'm an incurable motorhead, and a new Airhead rider. If I cannot help you directly, I will know who can.
I am virtually always 10 mph over the posted limit (NOT school zones! NOT congested areas!). I am also virtually always ignored when doing so. The only time I was not was when a very young Sheboygan County deputy decided that, while the gooseneck-hauling dually and the Grand Cherokee ahead of me were perfectly safe at 74.9 mph on I-43, I, in my Audi 200 Quattro at 75.0, was not. At least, he claimed that they were going slower than I, even though I'd followed them at exactly the same distance (with my cruise control on) since the Hwy 57 split south of Port Washington.
Know that I-43 is three things. It is the biggest damn road up through eastern Wisconsin, so the local LEOs have little else to do but microwave it. As a consequence, it is where all the out of state drivers travel, so of course, many of them get stopped out there at least in part because the prevailing flow of traffic isn't the 80 mph you can easily get away with in Cook County, IL. Finally, it is also a 'drug interdiction' route. As virtually the only way drugs flow from Chicago & Milwaukee to Green Bay, the Manitowoc and Sheboygan county LEOs delight in stopping 'suspect vehicles' for almost any reason on I-43 between Manitowoc and Sheboygan. A loud muffler might get you a body cavity search, especially if your license plate happens to read "UZI 9MM" (Yup; honest-to-God, I saw that one - pulled over in Sheboygan County).
Wisconsin is not a 'full disclosure' state like Ohio, which at least requires some markings on patrol cars doing traffic stops. They use completely unmarked cars and they have been known (at least in Sheboygan County) to resort to the use of such things as a nondescript old Dodge Omni to stop and cite bikers headed to the races at Road America. As for the threat of aircraft, I wouldn't worry a whole lot about it. Two years ago, Wisconsin only had one airplane doing traffic duty - and we sold it.
The pavement markings are still around, but the airplane isn't.The last thing to bear in mind is that, if you do have a forfeiture (most traffic matters are noncriminal for a number of prosecution-favorable and revenue-friendly reasons) to pay, it will probably shock you. While our quoted 'fines' are very reasonable, the additional fees and court costs border on the obscene. The only thing under $100 is a ($20) seatbelt violation. Everything else begins at $122 - and that's a (state charge) parking violation. The smallest forfeiture for speed is $193. The only upside to this is that Wisconsin is one of only two states east of the Mississippi that is not a member of the Interstate Violators Compact, so it is possible that any violations sustained here won't show up in your home state's records - unless your state happens to be adjacent to Wisconsin.
If you have a serious traffic matter while in Wisconsin, feel free to call my cell number at 920-AHA-YODA. I am primarily a bankruptcy lawyer, but I know traffic law, I'm an incurable motorhead, and a new Airhead rider. If I cannot help you directly, I will know who can.
J
JCABRANES
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rboettch
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swimming (not speeding)
Checkout Pike lake
http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/land/parks/specific/pikelake/
Not too far from the ralley site, a very nice ride into the Kettle Moraine.
Nice swimming hole tucked into some great roads.
Oh, for speeding, when entering villages pay attention to the speed reduction signs, they can go from 50 to 25 very fast. Also, on the interstates, 22 mph over is too fast. buy me a beer and I'll tell you about it.
Checkout Pike lake
http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/land/parks/specific/pikelake/
Not too far from the ralley site, a very nice ride into the Kettle Moraine.
Nice swimming hole tucked into some great roads.
Oh, for speeding, when entering villages pay attention to the speed reduction signs, they can go from 50 to 25 very fast. Also, on the interstates, 22 mph over is too fast. buy me a beer and I'll tell you about it.
